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"will of the people" argument

Straight to the point: there is no will of the people in case of Iran and any other country invaded and attacked by the US.

By that logic, literally everyone inside every system where they do not posess maximum political power should support the abolition of that system.

Want to know the real 'will of the people'? Live a peaceful, meaningful life without starvation and war.
To have a roof to live under and food to eat outweighs any notion of political participation.

This is why revolutions and rebellions (and frankly terrorism) almost always only grew meaningfully in places suffering either from active state oppression (like the Kurds ) or (more often) when starvation and economic decline existed.

Political freedom is good, but one can live without it so long as no life is at risk.


below is a rant by someone worried of society
skip to last paragraph to not view it.

And we as humans already produce 1½ times the food to feed the entire earth. The only reason third world countries still starve (and radicalize) is because it is more profitable to literally burn perfectly editable food in order not to oversupply the market, thus keeping prices artificially high.

Jobs as well. The jobs we have compete against each other. If we could make it easier to access each other's work, we can build our produce on the basics others already did instead of having to start over because some other company has a natural interest to keep their knowledge exclusive.
Instead of developing new innovations, it is more profitable to handicap our current machines so that they need to be replaced every few years. Light bulbs, batteries, or underdeveloping potency of pills & lotions to name a few.
To produce meaninful jobs, we need to make it higher paid to produce goods that actually help society.


Profit and our economic system are the issues against which the 'will of the people' is aimed, not the chicken fight between the richest leaders of the world.

Straight to the point: there is no will of the people in case of Iran and any other country invaded and attacked by the US. By that logic, literally everyone inside every system where they do not posess maximum political power should support the abolition of that system. Want to know the real 'will of the people'? Live a peaceful, meaningful life without starvation and war. To have a roof to live under and food to eat outweighs any notion of political participation. This is why revolutions and rebellions (and frankly terrorism) almost always only grew meaningfully in places suffering either from active state oppression (like the Kurds ) or (more often) when starvation and economic decline existed. Political freedom is good, but one can live without it so long as no life is at risk. __________________ __below is a rant by someone worried of society__ skip to last paragraph to not view it. And we as humans already produce 1½ times the food to feed the entire earth. The only reason third world countries still starve (and radicalize) is because it is more profitable to literally burn perfectly editable food in order not to oversupply the market, thus keeping prices artificially high. Jobs as well. The jobs we have compete against each other. If we could make it easier to access each other's work, we can build our produce on the basics others already did instead of having to start over because some other company has a natural interest to keep their knowledge exclusive. Instead of developing new innovations, it is more profitable to handicap our current machines so that they need to be replaced every few years. Light bulbs, batteries, or underdeveloping potency of pills & lotions to name a few. To produce meaninful jobs, we need to make it higher paid to produce goods that actually help society. ___________________________________________________ Profit and our economic system are the issues against which the 'will of the people' is aimed, not the chicken fight between the richest leaders of the world.

This is why I always do my best to make a detour around Hyde Park.

This is why I always do my best to make a detour around Hyde Park.

nice post @anonymous_III ! The whole Earth is a prison which is created by the USA military. Literally NOONE is allowed to visit the north pole our the far south, only agents of the system. This is a breeding ground for slave zombies to leech our energy our souls create to feed the dark masters. And the will of them who you can't name is manifesting ever since 1776 they founded all wars ALL of them. They make us kill each others and cremate our bodies which is a dark ritual sacrifise. Astral Light is our only hope.

nice post @anonymous_III ! The whole Earth is a prison which is created by the USA military. Literally NOONE is allowed to visit the north pole our the far south, only agents of the *system*. This is a breeding ground for slave zombies to leech our energy our souls create to feed the *dark masters*. And the will of *them who you can't name* is manifesting ever since 1776 *they* founded all wars ALL of them. They make us kill each others and cremate our bodies which is a dark ritual sacrifise. Astral Light is our only hope.

Calling somebody a dictator, or a terrorist grants no licence to kill.

Calling somebody a dictator, or a terrorist grants no licence to kill.

Dictator is just another job, similar to king being a piece. Nothing criminal per se.

Dictator is just another job, similar to king being a piece. Nothing criminal per se.

@Aluminium-27 said ^

Dictator is just another job, similar to king being a piece. Nothing criminal per se.

The actions done as a dictator are.
The title mass-murderer may not be a crime, the actions to deserve it certainly are.

@Aluminium-27 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/AGPotETG) > Dictator is just another job, similar to king being a piece. Nothing criminal per se. The actions done as a dictator are. The title mass-murderer may not be a crime, the actions to deserve it certainly are.

"the actions to deserve it certainly are"

  • Putin and Netanyahu are indicted by the International Criminal Court for war crimes.
"the actions to deserve it certainly are" * Putin and Netanyahu are indicted by the International Criminal Court for war crimes.

@what_game_is_this said ^

The actions done as a dictator are.

That would be the definition of bias. "Guilty by existence".

@what_game_is_this said [^](/forum/redirect/post/EiYVKAFU) > The actions done as a dictator are. That would be the definition of bias. "Guilty by existence".

@Aluminium-27 said ^

The actions done as a dictator are.

That would be the definition of bias. "Guilty by existence".

I believe you misunderstand.

It is not that the actions
made by someone called a dictator
will be crimes
because he is called a dictator.

It is that the actions
by a dictator
will be crimes
in many cases.

The same actions
would also be crimes
even if he called himself 'Donald Duck'.

@Aluminium-27 said [^](/forum/redirect/post/n2KDdjzo) > > The actions done as a dictator are. > > That would be the definition of bias. "Guilty by existence". I believe you misunderstand. It is not that the actions made by someone called a dictator will be crimes because he is called a dictator. It is that the actions by a dictator will be crimes in many cases. The same actions would also be crimes even if he called himself 'Donald Duck'.

"if he called himself 'Donald Duck'"

  • But not if he called himself Donald Trump.
"if he called himself 'Donald Duck'" * But not if he called himself Donald Trump.

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