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How to get a list of players of similar ranking than me or rated between an elo interval

Hello,

I am interested on making a benchmarking of my chess (if I am best/worst on bullet, blitz, puzzles, etc) to get a grasp of which areas I should focus on to improve my overall chess strength. I would like to check the ratings of players ranked similar to me on Lichess.

For example, I remember on ICC and on FICS there was a command, something like "rank", that showed oneself and the 10 players ranked up and down relative to one's rank (elo).

I have been checking the API, but have been unable to indentify a way to directly call for something like that. The most similar I have found is "Get one leaderboard" (https://adjva4.dpdns.org/player/top/{nb}/{perfType}). But it seems it is only allowed to list the first {nb} top ranked players, not between a certain interval (e.g. 2100-2020) or the 10 up/down ranked players related to me.

How could I try to do that without checking data from random players and then keeping just the ones with elo similar to mine?

Thanks for reading.

Hello, I am interested on making a benchmarking of my chess (if I am best/worst on bullet, blitz, puzzles, etc) to get a grasp of which areas I should focus on to improve my overall chess strength. I would like to check the ratings of players ranked similar to me on Lichess. For example, I remember on ICC and on FICS there was a command, something like "rank", that showed oneself and the 10 players ranked up and down relative to one's rank (elo). I have been checking the API, but have been unable to indentify a way to directly call for something like that. The most similar I have found is "Get one leaderboard" (https://adjva4.dpdns.org/player/top/{nb}/{perfType}). But it seems it is only allowed to list the first {nb} top ranked players, not between a certain interval (e.g. 2100-2020) or the 10 up/down ranked players related to me. How could I try to do that without checking data from random players and then keeping just the ones with elo similar to mine? Thanks for reading.

#1 I am confused... even if you could obtain this data, I'm not sure it would help you solve the benchmarking problem. As a chess player I found that playing correspondence gradually improved my play at all other categories:

"I am interested on making a benchmarking of my chess (if I am best/worst on bullet, blitz, puzzles, etc) to get a grasp of which areas I should focus on to improve my overall chess strength. I would like to check the ratings of players ranked similar to me on Lichess."

#1 I am confused... even if you could obtain this data, I'm not sure it would help you solve the benchmarking problem. As a chess player I found that playing correspondence gradually improved my play at all other categories: "I am interested on making a benchmarking of my chess (if I am best/worst on bullet, blitz, puzzles, etc) to get a grasp of which areas I should focus on to improve my overall chess strength. I would like to check the ratings of players ranked similar to me on Lichess."

@Toadofsky First of all, it is just curiosity: if I am better/worst than similar Lichess-rated players depening on the clock settings. Also, checking the ranking of the puzzles. If there is much difference in puzzles or chess performance. There is also another tool, the Chess Insight: I could compare my Chess Insight report with other's one with similar overall chess strength. And perhaps, once I look at their profiles, some other comparisons emerge.

@Toadofsky First of all, it is just curiosity: if I am better/worst than similar Lichess-rated players depening on the clock settings. Also, checking the ranking of the puzzles. If there is much difference in puzzles or chess performance. There is also another tool, the Chess Insight: I could compare my Chess Insight report with other's one with similar overall chess strength. And perhaps, once I look at their profiles, some other comparisons emerge.

#3 I agree that a comparative form of Chess Insight reports could be valuable; right now you would need to research each player separately.

#3 I agree that a comparative form of Chess Insight reports could be valuable; right now you would need to research each player separately.

@Toscani Yup, that's a way... but it only takes into account the (short) tactical strength. But with the puzzles I cannot measure the positional aspects of the chess. I am very sure my problem is with the positional play (and on the board chess, the openings). So I was looking for ways to make the benchmarking. And I think the best way is to compare with people with similar strength.

@Toadofsky Yup. Some of the stats from Chess Insights are more positional, and that's the kind of aspects I would like to comparte with.

From your answers it seems that Lichess has no direct ways to answer the main question (if I could get a list of similar-rated players).

Thank you all,

@Toscani Yup, that's a way... but it only takes into account the (short) tactical strength. But with the puzzles I cannot measure the positional aspects of the chess. I am very sure my problem is with the positional play (and on the board chess, the openings). So I was looking for ways to make the benchmarking. And I think the best way is to compare with people with similar strength. @Toadofsky Yup. Some of the stats from Chess Insights are more positional, and that's the kind of aspects I would like to comparte with. From your answers it seems that Lichess has no direct ways to answer the main question (if I could get a list of similar-rated players). Thank you all,

It doesn't matter what OP wants to do with the data, even if it is conceptually wrong or not, one thing I give credit to this thread:

The leaderboard API should allow to grab a rating range (or ranking range). If not a general range, at lease a -10/+10 positions between oneself.

My two cents. Cheers.

It doesn't matter what OP wants to do with the data, even if it is conceptually wrong or not, one thing I give credit to this thread: The leaderboard API should allow to grab a rating range (or ranking range). If not a general range, at lease a -10/+10 positions between oneself. My two cents. Cheers.

#6 There is no easy solution, but if you are willing to invest many hours of effort maybe Prof. Regan's paper may help point you in the right direction:
https://cse.buffalo.edu/~regan/papers/pdf/Reg12IPRs.pdf

#6 There is no easy solution, but if you are willing to invest many hours of effort maybe Prof. Regan's paper may help point you in the right direction: https://cse.buffalo.edu/~regan/papers/pdf/Reg12IPRs.pdf

@drbeco Exactly. The main question is if such a feature exists in or can be forged using Lichess' API. The reason were just examples to treat to give a grasp of why one could need such a feature.

@drbeco Exactly. The main question is if such a feature exists in or can be forged using Lichess' API. The reason were just examples to treat to give a grasp of why one could need such a feature.

@Toadofsky I read that paper years ago, but thanks to remember me it. Anyway, such an analisys just give you an ELO aproximation or a way to compare the moves (as a whole, not divided on aspects of chess) of your games over the time, but does not point to you in the direction you have to work to improve your chess.

But I repeat, the main question is if there is a feature similar to "rank" command on the old ICSs.

@Toadofsky I read that paper years ago, but thanks to remember me it. Anyway, such an analisys just give you an ELO aproximation or a way to compare the moves (as a whole, not divided on aspects of chess) of your games over the time, but does not point to you in the direction you have to work to improve your chess. But I repeat, the main question is if there is a feature similar to "rank" command on the old ICSs.

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