@persoest said in #1:
title. i almost exsclusively play the italian and am getting bored with it. im looking for more variety, which i think could help my improvement. im starting to play the petroff with black and so far i like it a lot but i still dont have an opening for white
I play the same as you. I wonder why I don't get bored with it and you do? Maybe it's because you thought OPENINGS are what makes interesting chess games - the opposite is the case. The opening is just the prelude, the beginning. The creativity starts later on (unless you play french, caro, london and so on)
@persoest said in #1:
> title. i almost exsclusively play the italian and am getting bored with it. im looking for more variety, which i think could help my improvement. im starting to play the petroff with black and so far i like it a lot but i still dont have an opening for white
I play the same as you. I wonder why I don't get bored with it and you do? Maybe it's because you thought OPENINGS are what makes interesting chess games - the opposite is the case. The opening is just the prelude, the beginning. The creativity starts later on (unless you play french, caro, london and so on)
@CheerUpChess-Youtube said in #21:
thats intresting. to answer u, i dont think that i think of the opening as the meat of a chess game. but i would have no clue of why ive gotten bored of it and u have not
@CheerUpChess-Youtube said in #21:
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thats intresting. to answer u, i dont think that i think of the opening as the meat of a chess game. but i would have no clue of why ive gotten bored of it and u have not
Colle system is very easy to learn and you improve your strategy not only your tactics with the italian. I improve my chess a lot changing e4 for english, colle and king's indian attack.
If you prefer play e4, check the scotch.
Colle system is very easy to learn and you improve your strategy not only your tactics with the italian. I improve my chess a lot changing e4 for english, colle and king's indian attack.
If you prefer play e4, check the scotch.
@CheerUpChess-Youtube said in #21:
The opening is just the prelude, the beginning. The creativity starts later on (unless you play french, caro, london and so on)
What's up with these French, Caro and London ? Playing white or black ? We know that French and Caro Kann are initiated by black, while London is by white.
As players, we have to prepare for any responses, right ?
@CheerUpChess-Youtube said in #21:
> The opening is just the prelude, the beginning. The creativity starts later on (unless you play french, caro, london and so on)
What's up with these French, Caro and London ? Playing white or black ? We know that French and Caro Kann are initiated by black, while London is by white.
As players, we have to prepare for any responses, right ?
@mundanesunday said in #13:
Considering that you will probably be out of book
by move 4 you shouldn’t focus on your openings
If one repeatedly faces the position after 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6, it seems to me that one might benefit from looking at some annotated games illustrating alternatives to 4 d3.
"... By looking at entire games, the aspiring player learns about openings, middlegames, and endgames all at one fell swoop. Playing through annotated games spurs improvement as the reader learns how good players consistently handle common positions and problems. ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2007)
web.archive.org/web/20140627062646/https://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman81.pdf
"... As is the wont with modern opening works, these books usually centre their recommended variations around an instructive and/or entertaining game, without great depth but with sufficient detail to show the main branches and explain basic ideas. This is absolutely legitimate ..." - IM John Watson (2012)
web.archive.org/web/20140627015516/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen163.pdf
"... I am not a big fan of weaker players memorizing lots of opening lines they will never play. However, it is quite a different issue to spend a small amount of time learning how to play your openings a little better each time they occur. A long journey begins with a single step. ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2005)
web.archive.org/web/20140627023809/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman50.pdf
@mundanesunday said in #13:
> Considering that you will probably be out of book
> by move 4 you shouldn’t focus on your openings
If one repeatedly faces the position after 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6, it seems to me that one might benefit from looking at some annotated games illustrating alternatives to 4 d3.
"... By looking at entire games, the aspiring player learns about openings, middlegames, and endgames all at one fell swoop. Playing through annotated games spurs improvement as the reader learns how good players consistently handle common positions and problems. ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2007)
web.archive.org/web/20140627062646/https://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman81.pdf
"... As is the wont with modern opening works, these books usually centre their recommended variations around an instructive and/or entertaining game, without great depth but with sufficient detail to show the main branches and explain basic ideas. This is absolutely legitimate ..." - IM John Watson (2012)
web.archive.org/web/20140627015516/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen163.pdf
"... I am not a big fan of weaker players memorizing lots of opening lines they will never play. However, it is quite a different issue to spend a small amount of time learning how to play your openings a little better each time they occur. A long journey begins with a single step. ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2005)
web.archive.org/web/20140627023809/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman50.pdf
Try the Danish Gambit sometime.
Try the Danish Gambit sometime.
The Ruy is an awesome opening that will teach you allot about strategy and chess in general.
The Ruy is an awesome opening that will teach you allot about strategy and chess in general.
"Alekhine advised beginners not to play the Spanish game. We also recommend you get some experience first by playing relatively simple openings - the Scotch and Italian games - and only then move on to the Spanish one." - Journey to the Chess Kingdom by Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin
It is possible to play a somewhat simplified Ruy Lopez by going for 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 a6 4 Ba4 Nf6 5 d3.
There is a chapter about this in The Ruy Lopez: Move by Move by Neil McDonald (2011).
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627022042/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen153.pdf
"... As a first step in mastering the Ruy Lopez, you need a solid, simple repertoire that will allow you to play practice games with your new opening without fearing nasty surprises. ... 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 a6 4 Ba4 Nf6 5 d3 ... This should be by far the most common position you reach after 3 Bb5. Until, that is, you feel ready to branch out from 5 d3 to other, sharper variations. ..." - GM Neil McDonald (2011)
"Alekhine advised beginners not to play the Spanish game. We also recommend you get some experience first by playing relatively simple openings - the Scotch and Italian games - and only then move on to the Spanish one." - Journey to the Chess Kingdom by Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin
It is possible to play a somewhat simplified Ruy Lopez by going for 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 a6 4 Ba4 Nf6 5 d3.
There is a chapter about this in The Ruy Lopez: Move by Move by Neil McDonald (2011).
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627022042/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen153.pdf
"... As a first step in mastering the Ruy Lopez, you need a solid, simple repertoire that will allow you to play practice games with your new opening without fearing nasty surprises. ... 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 a6 4 Ba4 Nf6 5 d3 ... This should be by far the most common position you reach after 3 Bb5. Until, that is, you feel ready to branch out from 5 d3 to other, sharper variations. ..." - GM Neil McDonald (2011)
Try the Scotch game :)
"... [After 1 e4 e5 2 d4 exd4 3 c3,] Black has a very simple and solid defence in 3...d5. ..." - GM Paul van der Sterren (2009)
"... [After 1 e4 e5 2 d4 exd4 3 c3,] Black has a very simple and solid defence in 3...d5. ..." - GM Paul van der Sterren (2009)